This was originally written on Monday, June 23, 2008:June 18th was Logan's two month birthday and also his two month pediatrician's appointment. When Joe came home from work to go with me, I said, "I have bad memories from the last time we were there and we kept having to go to the hospital for his jaundice. Hopefully this trip will be more positive." We had no reason to think otherwise--Logan's been thriving and doing excellent. Weeks 2 thru 8.5 were the best weeks of my entire life! Now, of course, I've come down from my high.
The appointment started off well. Logan was weighed and measured, ending up in the 90th percentile when it came to his weight (13 lbs, 6.5 oz!!!) and 55% when it came to his height (23 inches) and 45% when it came to his head (15.5 inches). All of the nurses said he was pretty solid--he has a lot of muscle--and after the PA checked his heart, lungs, eyes, nose, ears, mouth, etc. she said that everything looked really healthy.
Then our pediatrician came in the room and did a more thorough check of everything. I noticed that he kept focusing on Logan's neck. Joe & I both thought maybe we hadn't cleaned it well enough, haha. But the doctor pointed to a dimple on Logan that Joe's mom had first shown me when I was in the hospital after giving birth. During Logan's first couple of days of life I really didn't inspect his body. He was just so fragile-looking that I was scared to touch him much! In fact, I didn't even kiss him until day 3. After his jaundice experience, though, I realized that babies aren't as fragile as they first appear, and so since then he's had kisses galore! :-) Needless to say, that's why it was my mother-in-law who first pointed out the pit on his neck. I had been holding Logan in my hospital bed and she said she'd looked for unique features and the only thing she'd found was a tiny little dimple. The way she said it sounded concerning (she might have even used the word "hole"), but I assumed that if it was anything serious a doctor or nurse would have said something--so I just brushed it off.
For the past two months I've seen it, my parents have seen it, Joe has seen it, etc.--and none of us thought it looked like anything that needed special attention. So when our doctor focused on it, I was surprised. Joe and I moved closer to him and were shocked when he said, "Do you see this hole? It's a brachical cleft." Obviously that went right over my head, but he continued, "Do you see how there's fluid around it? That's not supposed to be there."
Sure enough, the area inside the dimple was wet. I knew right then that this appointment was not going to be any better than our last. The pediatrician explained that at first he'd thought maybe the wetness was caused by one of Logan's tears (Logan was crying at the time) but every time he wiped it away it reappeared. We had never noticed the area getting wet before, probably because the liquid never dripped down--it was the smallest amount you can imagine.
The doctor said that as our heads and necks develop they fuse together like a zipper down the middle. A brachial cleft occurs when it doesn't finish at the end and leaves a hole above the collarbone. Sometimes this happens and it's just something to keep an eye on, but when there's fluid leaking it's serious because that is a sign that it's only a matter of time before infection will occur. He said that unfortunately Logan is going to need surgery to fuse the area together and so we needed to call his plastic surgeon as soon as possible to meet with him within the week.
Of course tears started to form in my eyes, which must have been what the doctor had expected because he talked directly to Joe and didn't look at me at all until the very end, when he was very sympathetic and gave me a box of Kleenex. He also wrote down the name of Logan's condition since I was speechless at that moment and didn't know what questions to ask.
I couldn't believe this was happening--surgery on my two month old baby? Did this mean he wasn't going to be "normal?" I thought about a little girl who had been in the waiting room before our appt--she was deformed and I couldn't help but worry Logan's neck now would be. A million depressing thoughts ran through my mind as the doctor left and the nurse came in with vaccinations. For those of you who read my pregnancy blogs, you know the vaccines had originally been the part of the appt. I'd been dreading.
During my all-day sickness period I watched a lot of television and read several magazines, and there was a lot of stuff about vaccinations and their link to autism (esp. in boys), ADD, hyperactivity, other brain disorders, and immune disorders (why children get sick more now than when my generation was growing up). At first I didn't want to hear or read about it (my mom was actually the first to bring it to my attention a couple of years ago when it all first came out, but the controversy was too complicated to think about when I wasn't even planning to get pregnant at that time). I had hoped that by the time I had a baby I could just trust the American Academy of Pediatrics because there wasn't an easy answer for me to make on my own, and I didn't want to make the wrong decision.
Unfortunately, the evidence is coming out at an extremely slow pace since the studies are basically on an individual basis (why are some children affected and others aren't?), and so in the meantime the American Academy of Pediatrics is still giving out the vaccinations because otherwise the alternative is an outbreak of the diseases.
But, after doing my own research, I couldn't ignore the facts. I'd never forgive myself if my son was negatively affected by the vaccinations since now I knew better. At the same time, I'd never forgive myself if Logan ended up with a deadly disease. Therefore, Joe & I didn't want to NOT vaccinate AT ALL, but rather compromise so that we can know we did the best we could if either scenerio happened.
Just like how I chose my birthing hospital (the one that does the most births in my city, as well as the one most medical personnel choose to have their own babies in), it was important to me when I was finding a pediatrician to select one that was knowledgeable about both sides of the vaccination controversy. There are a lot of biases BOTH ways (half of the pediatricians here will not allow parents to choose their own vaccination schedule, while there are holistic doctors who don't encourage parents to give any vaccines at all). I wanted someone who was open-minded and would tell me the truth of both sides.
Fortunately, my actual pediatrician specializes in autism and so he knows that many of his patients' parents are adament that the vaccinations were to blame (because their babies were perfectly normal and responding intelligently prior to the vaccines) and he can not argue with them. No matter how much the American Academy of Pediatrics stands by their vaccination schedule, they can't prove that their vaccines aren't risky. Therefore, our pediatrician told us right away that he is not going to insist that we do things his way as a doctor, but rather he will give us the freedom to do what we feel most comfortable with as parents. With that said, as more and more parents are choosing not to vaccinate at all, children are starting to contract more diseases.
So, we asked him what he recommended for parents like us. He said to wait on the "controversial vaccines" until after the age of two. By that time the brain is done being formed, so it's not as likely for children to develop these brain disorders, and childrens' immune systems are stronger and better able to handle the vaccines so then they're not as weak and susceptible to contracting viruses and other illnesses. They are also still young enough when getting the vaccines that they're not likely to be exposed to the diseases (especially babies like Logan who aren't in daycare).
Since, fortunately, thimerosal has been removed from vaccines (what started the controversy, as it is mercury--which, even the small amount in vaccines has been linked to late walking, talking, abnormal neurological scores, and nueurotoxicity in infants), now most of the controversy lies with the vaccines that have more than one dose in them, such as DTaP, which Logan was supposed to get this time but did not because it contains the vaccination for Diphtheria, Tetanus, AND Pertussis all in one. (Plus, I got the tetanus shot when I was pregnant and I read we should both be safe for five years). He also did not get the Hep. B vaccine (just like he didn't get it at birth) since it's basically an STD, or polio since there hasn't been a case of it in the United States since the 1970's. Instead, Logan received the Hib, Rotavirus, and Pneumococcal Conjugate. (The Hib and PC were shots, while the Rotavirus was a drink.)
By the time Logan is five yrs old and ready for school, he will have caught up to the standard schedule and will have all of his vaccinations. But in the meantime he'll be on a delayed schedule, where we'll do just half of his vaccines each time. I feel good about this, as it is more in line with the schedule that was followed when I was growing up (now kids are given triple the amount of vaccines).
Hopefully soon the American Academy of Pediatrics will come up with an entire new schedule and parents won't have to make these tough decisions ourselves. I pray Logan won't be exposed to such diseases as measles, mumps, and rubella--as the MMR is the most controversial shot of them all, usually given at 12 months, but Logan will definitely not be getting that until way after the age of two. Especially with his surgery coming up I don't want to make him weaker and more susceptible to brain and immune disorders.
Anyway, but the vaccines ended up being the last thing on my mind on Wednesday. Once we came home from the pediatrician's appt. I realized I had a lot of unanswered questions about brachial cleft, and so I looked up on the internet to see what I could find.
I was disappointed by the lack of information. Because it is rare and there are several types (it's something adults can get, too--only as an actual cyst/growth on their neck) it was hard to find facts about the kind Logan has. What I did determine from several websites was that it is something that occurs within the first four weeks of development within the womb and also that it is genetic.
Yesterday I learned that my mother-in-law, her dad, Joe's sister, two of Joe's nephews, and one of their babies all have this on their ear, so it appears Logan inherited the same trait but ended up with it on his neck instead! Joe's mom said that her dad's drained fluid as well, and one of Joe's nephew's has been infected; maybe it's not as serious when it's on the ear. So at least I'm not beating myself up about it anymore. At first when I learned it was a birth defect I was like, but I followed all of the rules to avoid them while pregnant, what did I do wrong?!
Also, when my pediatrician said that we needed to make an appt. with the plastic surgeon within the week I was thinking this was something urgent/emergency that needed to be done ASAP. But we called the plastic surgeon's office that afternoon and they said the doctor was out of town until July 1st and would be back for two days and then gone again until the 24th. They said we could come in on the 1st to get our questions answered, find out his opinion on what we should do, and probably schedule the surgery for the end of the month. When we called our pediatrician's office and asked if this was okay, they said "yes." In the meantime, we are also getting a second opinion from an Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor that our pediatrician recommended, and then will choose between the two as far as who does the surgery. I still have a lot of questions.
The fluid is from the sinuses, and surgery always corrects the problem, so I'm glad that it is fixable and that afterwards it should be like it never happened. There are definitely a lot worse conditions Logan could have and it has helped a lot to hear from family and friends who have had babies or have known other babies who've gone through surgeries and have turned out okay and are now happy & healthy.
I'm sure the week Logan has surgery will still be emotional for me, though. I'm glad that he's too young to know what's going on. . .he won't know beforehand, or during (since he'll be "out"), and I'm sure they'll give him something for pain afterwards--so the surgery will probably be harder for me than him. At least he is a strong baby so that should work to his advantage, and by the time he has it he'll be a month older which means he'll be that much tougher.
Of course I've been obsessed with watching the hole now, like when he's drinking from a bottle I do notice the area becoming wet. I was hoping maybe the fluid draining was a one-time-thing that just happened to be at the ped.'s office (because then he wouldn't need surgery yet) but it seems to be getting more regular.
I'm trusting God that everything will be okay. Hopefully this will be it for hospitals for Logan!!! He couldn't possibly have any more love in his life so that's the main thing.
On a brighter note, Logan met his first friend on Friday, June 20th. You might remember me mentioning that Joe used to work with a guy (Matt) whose wife coincidentally also found out she was pregnant on Labor Day. They were due a couple of weeks before us but ended up having their baby six days later. Even though Joe doesn't work with Matt anymore, they golf every now and then with the company's league and compared stories while us wives were pregnant. We all thought it'd be fun to get together for a playdate once the boys were born, and so they invited us over last weekend--but that's when Joe went to his class reunion. Originally, I had thought about going to my class reunion this past weekend, but decided not to, so we invited them over to our house to grill out. It was so much fun, we've decided to do it regularly and watch the boys grow up together :-) They have their two month check up on Tuesday and are guessing Jaxson is in the 90th percentile with his weight as well. He was almost 9 lbs at birth and was--and is--taller than Logan, but feels equal in weight when holding him.
On Saturday, we invited Nick & Heather over. (Like Matt, Nick used to work with Joe at his old place of employment.) I haven't scrapbooked since the end of March so Heather brought over her stuff and we did that while the guys installed our second garage door opener. The last time Nick was here was when we installed the first garage door opener on Labor Day. . .just hours before I found out I was pregnant :-) Hopefully I can return to the actual scrapbooking nights at the store in July. Also, my neighbor Jenn said she's still doing every other Thursday at her house, so maybe I'll re-join her in July as well. I need to get going on Logan's scrapbook!!!!
Anyway, it was the first time for having Heather over at our house so she got to meet my doggies and we ordered Gambino's pizza and chatted while the guys played guitar hero before calling it a night. I was glad I had these distractions on Fri & Sat, and am getting together with Lisa P for lunch this Thursday (she & her husband used to work with Joe as well) so am very much looking forward to that as well!
Otherwise, that's about it for my update. I went back and read my blogs so far and there are some things I accidentally left out, so I'll conclude with them:
1) For my first two weeks after giving birth I kept waking up in the night drenched in sweat. I was never hot or sick so I thought it was really weird. But on day twelve I went to get my hair high-lighted and my stylist asked, "Have you had the night sweats?" I was like, "OMG yes! I didn't know what they were!" Apparently it is normal in the couple of weeks following birth to sweat, as your body's hormones return to normal. Ironically, it stopped after that.
2) I also leaked breast milk constantly at night from two weeks up until around my "Breastfeeding Rollercoaster" blog. Now that I'm basically just breastfeeding, I'm not waking up drenched if a feeding is delayed. I think it's because Logan doesn't really have a pattern or schedule, so my milk holds off until I pick him up or take off my shirt--then it starts SPRAYING which can be crazy when I'm not prepared. Like, when I get out of the shower I have to hurry up and cover my chest with a towel because it will just go all over the bathroom! Ah, the things we never knew. . .
Anyway, when I pumped all of the time, my breasts hurt & leaked every two hours on the dot. Logan was taking his bottle like clockwork (pretty much the same minute, every two hours). But brestfeeding has made him much less predictable. He might want to eat an hour after the last feeding--but then not again for 5 hours! At first this made me uneasy because I'm a structured person and liked the predictability, but since Logan has been so content and doing so well with breastfeeding (and obviously isn't lacking any nutrients) I realize that I need to just let him guide me and not force him to be on the time-table that I'd prefer. I've learned that he knows more about himself than I do and so I trust his signals as far as what is best for him. I don't want to take that away because hopefully that will help him to continue to be assertive and in tune with himself as he gets older.
Don't get me wrong--this doesn't mean I'm going to cater to his every need as he gets older, but right now it appears that nature is taking more of its course than Logan trying to be spoiled--and I think its like that for a reason so that he is at his healthiest.
I don't quite understand it because on average he nurses for only ten minutes at a time, while when I pump it's for twenty minutes and he always demands the entire bottle (so when nursing, the amount has to be half that and yet he's okay with it). But there's no reason to complain, he's even been sleeping better and longer during the night since breastfeeding all of the time.
Except for last Monday night, however. I was up with him for 5 hrs straight (from 2-7 AM)--ICK! I felt very run down and was worried I was going to get sick. Last night, though, he only got up twice from 11 PM to 11 AM. (He was very awake earlier that day when Nick & Heather were here, but not at all when Matt & Stacy were on Friday.) I ended up pumping the most I ever have--10 oz in one sitting! But he slept six hours straight. So even though each day is different, as long as the majority of the night Logan is sleeping, and the morning & evening he is awake (which seems to be the case) I don't mind. (FYI babies at this age generally sleep 15 hrs total a day.)
He appears to be a morning person (unlike me) and is at his most active between 7-10 AM. He is full of smiles and laughs and curiosity. He especially LOVES his mobile. Every morning I turn it on and his entire face lights up and he grins from ear to ear. It brings him so much joy and happiness, it really melts my heart and is the highlight of my day!!!
Every now and then we'll have a relapse with breastfeeding (for example, once in awhile he seems addicted--like he just wants to breastfeed forever--but an hour is my limit so I usually keep one bottle in the fridge each day incase of times like that) but 99% of the time it is easy now, I can't believe it. It's how I always imagined & hoped in the beginning!!!
3) Logan has outgrown his first outfit (a onesie that says "Nothings wrong, just testing you") and has almost outgrown another (the shirt & pants he wore home from the hospital that's in his hospital picture). Considering 0-3 month clothes are for up to 14 pounds, I'm guessing he'll be in the 3-6 month clothes any day. He's already worn two of those--it's bittersweet :/ I love that he's going on to a new phase in his life (more interactive and fun) but I've really loved the newborn phase (he's just the sweetest thing ever, he can do no wrong) and I don't want his childhood to go too fast!
4) Logan has started scooting (actually moving, but with his limbs straight out) already when he's on his tummy! He also has waved and said hi. Hear me out, LOL! The first day was at four weeks old. I said "Hi Logan" and he went, "Hi!" I told Joe and he was like, "Um, I think you need more sleep." Of course he didn't believe me. . .until he heard it for himself. Obviously I know Logan isn't seriously saying "hi" but you know how all babies have a favorite sound they make? Well, his is "hi." He says it every day, sometimes it's a happy "hi," other times it's a mad "hi" and other time it's just a regular old "hi." He'll be in his pack n play and we'll walk by as he says "hi," so we'll say "hi Logan"--it's so funny. As for the wave, the first time happened at seven weeks old when we were back in Iowa at my dad's house. My grandma waved to him and he waved back. I actually didn't see it, but four other people witnessed it. But I had my own experience just this past week. He was in his carseat looking at me so I waved and he brought up his hand and waved it. Once again, I know it wasn't real, but the timing of these make it fun. :-)
5) He has both Joe & my cowlicks, poor guy, haha! I have one in my bang area (although it's not as bad now as when I was little) and Joe has a Dennis the Menace one in back. Both of Logan's are small, but it's cool to see our traits in him (since we still can't really pick out his other features).
6) I've started cutting his fingernails! This is a big deal, I've been scared to do it my entire life. I remember thinking in high school that I dreaded when I had a baby and would have to do it. But from the day Logan was born he's been scratching his face and so I knew I'd have to get over my fear. For the first eight weeks the doctors recommended we just file them, but we couldn't seem to do it often enough because when he got frustrated he still scratched his face pretty bad (as well as me--and it hurts). My stepmom had bought me some baby safety clippers for Christmas and so I got them out this past week and went for it. . .and it was so easy! I don't know why I was so chicken. In fact, I think I'll probably do it every day now because even just a couple of days after I did it last week he scratched his face again. They grow a mile a minute.
As of last night (Sunday) we're also giving him a real bath every night. Up until then we were just doing wet washcloths irregularly (which doctors recommend for the first two months). I'm hoping the daily shampoos will get rid of his cradle cap because he still has the newborn dandruff. He seemed to like the "real bath" much better (I think it was like a hot tub for him)--he actually smiled a few times when normally he cries.
7) We're supposed to keep Logan pretty covered when he's outside. Our pediatrician said that he can't wear sunscreen yet, and even so it isn't enough to protect babies' skin before six months of age. We've still been taking our walks about three times each week in the evenings so that's been fun. I've only done my aerobics that one day I mentioned, though, but fortunately I still lost my final two pounds of my pregnancy weight by Logan's two month birthday!
8) Just a random thought--I really don't understand child abuse. Not that I really did before having Logan, but now it's even more insane to me that anyone could hurt a baby. Even when he's fussy it's not something that could provoke anger in me--he's too innocent!!! What is wrong with people? I can't stand to hear the news of shaken baby syndrome or parents murdering their children.
9) Joe & I have come to the realization that we need godparents and have no clue who to put in our wills if something was to happen to us. Hopefully it never happens because right now we don't know who we'd want to raise Logan. We either don't know the people in our family well enough or we know them too well, haha. But we're going to try to make a decision by the time of his dedication in July.
10) Sarah S. (another wife of one of Joe's old co-workers, who is due in November) found out this week that she's having a boy! Welcome to the club! Joe wasn't surprised because there's a jinx at his old office (where Sarah's husband works) that makes everyone have the sex that they are. Maybe Lisa P. will break that jinx if she has a boy (since she works there). . .
Monday, December 1, 2008
My Son's Brachial Cleft Fistula
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From Kendra on original post in June 2008:
Hi Andrea.. I am so sorry your little Logan will be going through surgery. That is going to be so rough on you. I'm sure, however, that he will be virtually un phased.
I totally know what you mean about Logan growing up and how bitter sweet it is, but trust me...It just gets better and better. There is no question in my mind that I enjoy my children more and they get even cuter with age!
Very good information on vaccines and I agree .. it is such a hard topic to approach with so much information available (much of it incomprehensible to the lay person) and so much interference from pharmaceutical companies. I think you have a very smart plan and I applaud you. Waiting until 2 for the harsher vaccines sounds like a brilliant idea and I think we will do the same. As far as the ones in between we're still trying to figure things out. Definitely no Hep. B shot at birth .. makes no sense.
Chris,
I'm happy to hear your postponing vaccinations.I heard about the harmful effects of them about 5 yrs. ago from our medical professionals due to their ingredients.Knowing what I know now,I wouldn't have vaccinated myself or family because of everything I've read.I learned our immune system is stronger and healthier without the vaccine contaminants in our bodies.
Thank you Chris, and MOM :)
Hi,
Just wanted to write in and say, that I am a 38 year old woman who has lived with a branchial fistula my entire life without surgery with no ill effects. It was noted by the doctor when I was a baby, and my neck "leaked" a droplet of mucus when ever I ate or drank. My mom was offered surgery as an option, but it was rather risky back in 1970. I have never had any medical problems at all regarding this "hole in my neck". And it has proven to be a rather interesting thing that I have and that no one would know I had unless I told them. Hope this helps a bit. I was kind of surprised that your doctor pushed so hard for surgery and said it could cause infection as I have never had a problem all these years.
To the woman with the brachial cleft fistula: Thank you for writing. I am glad to read that you have done fine with the hole, without having surgery. I had figured there must be people like you out there, but hadn't actually talked to any. We have put off the procedure the past six months, but now my son is eight months old and so the doctors didn't want to wait any longer--he is scheduled to have a scan this Monday (Jan. 5th), and after that they want to set up a date for his surgery. It's hard for me some days to know what to do because the hole doesn't seem to be a problem yet (so I don't want to him to have surgery if he doesn't need it), but it's hard to find much info on this subject (so I haven't found anything telling me he doesn't need it), and all three doctors we've talked to insist that it will get infected at some time which will make it a more serious problem. However, obviously you are proof that it won't for sure get infected. I appreciate the insight!
I just read about your son having a brachial cleft fistula on his neck. I actually have this myself! I was researching to see what to do when it gets infected and I came across your blog. I'm 27 years old and I've had this "fistula" since birth. It drains every now and then and can be a bit embarrassing since it is more mucousy than "wet". I've learned to deal with it though. It did get infected with I was a pre teen and the doctors looked into surgery. I never got it because my jugular vein was too close to where they would need to make an incision. My parents thought it wasn't worth the risk... I tend to agree. Well, now I'm 27 and low and behold it has gotten infected for the second time in my life. I'm pregnant with my second child and decided to go online to see what to do about it. If I were you I wouldn't do the surgery either. No one really notices it and it's really not that big of a deal! If you have anymore questions, my e-mail is mcpris214@yahoo.com. Hope Logan is doing well :)
Priscilla
Hi Priscilla,
Thank you for your comment! It is nice to know there are others who have this! Especially, since you have been okay with the fistula for 27 years!
We went back & forth about doing the surgery. . . but finally decided to go ahead in February (when Logan was 10 months old) because all of the doctors we talked to said that worse case scenerio death could occur with a bad infection. I knew that was probably rare, but I just hated worrying about my baby boy all of the time. I was always watching the hole and worried whenever it would get dirty, or when he had his first cold (infection was said to be more likely with an upper respiratory tract infection). I spent those 10 months researching and researching and researching and it sounded like the possibility of SOME type of problem occuring with it at some point was likely, so even though I hated having to put my little guy under, thankfully the procedure was super quick and easy. It took less than a half an hour and we were able to take him home after just two hours! He was immediately back to his usual self - playing normally all that day as if nothing had ever happened. He clearly had no recollection of it (since they sedated him while he was playing with their toys) and no pain or discomfort (we didn't have to give him anything afterwards - not even Tylenol). So thankfully it was a success, but I'm glad we didn't do it back when we first learned of it when he was two months old - it was much easier to do it when he was 22 pounds and we knew his personality and he was secure with us, etc.
But, I remember that day after he'd gone in for surgery but before he'd come out, I wasn't sure if I would do it again if baby #2 has it. It appears to be genetic in my husband's family (only the other people who have it, have it on their ear so I haven't met anyone else with it on the neck!) I still don't know - I guess we will just take it day by day and not rush it which is what we did with Logan. Since Logan's neck is "normal" now I'm glad we did it with him, but his brachial cleft fistula was not in a risky place like it sounds like yours is! I can definitely see why your parents & doctor didn't think it was worth the risk of surgery. Our ENT said there are antibiotics for the infection. I hope that your infection goes away soon - especially since I know stuff like that isn't fun to deal with when you're pregnant. By the way, congratulations on your second child! :)
Andrea
Hi Andrea...Thanks for posting the information about vaccines. My husband and I are also doing a alternative schedule. I was wondering what your exact schedule is and when or if your doing the DTaP. This is the one we are agonizing over at the moment. Any help would be appreciated :) thanks
Hi Anonymous, we just now gave our son the first dose of the DTaP vaccine at a year old. The only vaccines that we gave prior to a year old were the rotavirus, hib, and PC. Many people I know are spreading those three out so their babies only get one at a time. We went ahead and gave him those 3 together (since it was still half of what is standard) so now he's done with those. We are still waiting on the polio, hep, MMR, flu, and chicken pox. Have you read THE VACCINE BOOK by Dr. Sears? It is excellent for helping parents make the best decision! I wrote about the book in my post, http://momwriterme.blogspot.com/2008/12/4-months-old.html In that post I copied info from that book about the DTaP vaccine: ". . .DTaP. . .is made of a lot of chemicals. Aluminum, formaldehyde (which is toxic), and polysorbate (also toxic) just to name a few. The "P" in DTaP is for the disease pertussis, and when the entire germ is used in the vaccine, it often causes shock, seizures, and brain dysfunction. For the DT, in truth, tetanus is not an infant disease, and virtually all cases occur in adults. Also, diphtheria is virtually nonexistent in the United States. So, one could create a logical argument that a baby could skip the tetanus and diphtheria shots for a few years and be just fine. This child could then get the tetanus series as a teenagers and the diphtheria shots before traveling the world. He could even get them together as the DT shot."
(So we basically just gave Logan the DTaP vaccine for the "P"/whooping cough)
Please let me know if you have anymore questions. Best of luck!!!!
Thank you for taking the time to answer me. I have read The Vaccine Book and found it very helpful. I guess we are struggling with the DTaP because of the side effects of the vaccine and the possibility of getting whopping cough before the age of one, when it suppose to be the worst. We live in Omaha and our pediatrician said their have been outbreaks. So there is the trouble.
Thanks Anne
Anne, I don't know if you've been back since you left your comment - I thought that I had replied and was stunned to just notice that I hadn't. What did you end up doing? We live in Omaha as well. I am all about going with your gut instinct. This topic is so hard because how do you know what is the lesser of the two evils. If you feel that your son is at greater risk of getting whooping cough than problems from the DTaP vaccine then I would go ahead and give it. Since I was a stay at home mom and breastfeeding my son's first year it did not seem likely that he would get whooping cough and so that's why I felt it okay to wait. My next child I will be looking at with a clear slate again because he/she may have to follow a different schedule since my son will be older and bringing home virus' from his playmates. I hope that either way your son has been doing well these past 4 months! Please feel free to e-mail me with anymore comments or questions so I can be sure to respond right away!
Hi! I just found your blog when googling what my 6 week old was diagnosed with today....wow, its so rare! First helpful insight was found on your page...thanks for that...Im a wreck! My husband wants to avoid the surgery but, I assume its encouraged since all went well for you!
Thanks! Wish us luck!
Tricia Gremmo
Hi Tricia, thanks so much for your comment. I'm so sorry that your six week old has this, too. :( I'm glad that my blog could provide you some helpful info. I will never forget what a wreck I was, too! Yes, the surgery went excellent - I couldn't have asked for a better outcome. All of the doctors we spoke with said that is generally always the case because it is so simple for them and quick & painless for the patient! So I hope you will take comfort with that great news, too! Please let me know how things end up with you guys.
Hi Andrea...Thank you so much for posting this about your son, Logan, who I hope is doing well now. I have been searching the web for quite sometime for information like this concerning brachical clefts. My second son was also born with this. We pointed out the small dimple like hole in his neck within the first couple of weeks after he was born to his Pediatrician but was told to just look after it and to let them know if it ever leaked fluid. We had never noticed it leaking until now :( He is currently two years old now. We took him to our ENT to get checked out and was told that he would need to have surgery to prevent infections however he would not be the doctor to actually do the surgery because of the location of the dimple/hole. Apparently, he called it a Stage III fistula because it is located at the bottom of his neck near his collar bone. My husband and i have been thinking about the surgery now for over 6 months but we are scared to death about doing it.
I am happy to read the other blog posts to know that there is several others out there with this same scenario but have learned to live with it. My husband and I are still debating about what to do since we never have had to deal with infections in it yet. Did you take Logan to a ENT or more of a Specialist to do the surgery? Our ENT is supposed to be contacting another individual for a second opinion but we have not heard back yet. Thanks :)
Hi Veronica,
Thank you so much for your comment. Yes, Logan has done very well since his surgery almost 10 months ago! The scar is hardly noticeable now but I will never forget the ten months I worried up until he had the procedure!!! I researched brachial clefts quite a bit and am sorry that you are having to deal with the stage 3 kind. I don't blame you for being nervous and going back & forth about the surgery!!! I did that and Logan's was stage 1! Therefore, his pediatrician, a plastic surgeon, and his ENT (the ENT was who did the procedure) weren't hesitant on doing it. It was very simple and quick, and as you probably read on my previous comments, we were able to go home two hours after it was over and he never acted like he knew what had happened. He was his usual self that day. . .I remember thinking at least he would probably take a longer nap that day - haha - nope! As you can imagine it was a big relief for my husband & I to see him not in any pain (we didn't even have to give him Tylenol afterwards).
But, again, Logan's was stage 1 so that is different than stage 3. I have a feeling that if I was in your shoes I might have put off the surgery just to see how likely it was to get infected. We were told since we waited until Logan was 10 months old it could get infected before then but that antibiotics work if it's caught quickly. As you probably read from the other comments, there were a couple who have lived with theirs, no problem even with infection, to adulthood. I'm assuming it's like with everything - some people have problems with it and others don't. Even if your son's brachial cleft drains doesn't mean it's going to get infected right away. And if it does, it might be minor. However, if it isn't - but something that both your son and you never want to go through again - then you will be confident you want the procedure right away. If you do have it done, Logan's story can give you hope that it can be quick and painless!!! Since your son is two years old they can probably sedate him while he's playing just like they did with Logan and then he won't be scared or understand too much what is going on.
Please keep me updated or feel free to ask any other questions!
Andrea
My son was born with the same thing and when i asked about it at the hospital, they said it was nothing!!! and now i read that it is definitely something to worry about.(we don't live in the states)
My son is 10 months old now and we haven't had any problems with it, i haven't noticed any leaking.
I am happy i found this page...it has given me more info then my so called doctor!!!
Hi. We chanced upon your blog when we were researching on Branchial Cleft Sinus. My baby is now 10 month old and she has this hole on her neck. At this point we still don't know for sure if what she has is a sinus or a fistula. The ENT that we went to seems to be a bit conservative (because of her age) that he didn't yet want to conduct tests for this. He wants this done after 1 year old. Obviously he also don't recommend surgery at this point.
I am curious if your son underwent testing to determine that it was a fistula. What test was done? If it's some kind of xray or scan I wonder how this can be performed on an infant without sedating (I don't want that at this point if it can be avoided). I find it very confusing that on some blogs/posting about this topic, there is no clear answer as to when is the best time for surgery. As I read from the comments on your blog, some reached adulthood without any problem. Thanks for your help.
Thank you for the last two comments, Anonymous #1 I'm so glad my blog could be a positive resource for you. Anonymous #2, yes my son had a CT scan at 9 months old which determined it was a complete hole and why he needed surgery (it was draining fluid and if it became infected it could be serious). He had the procedure at 10 months old. For both the scan and the surgery he was sedated which was what scared me at the time, too, however everything went so easily and smoothly and perfectly that I am glad we did it then because I think it would be more confusing/scary to him now that he's two years old. I think the best time is different for everyone so if your ENT doesn't feel like it is necessary at this time, then it might be fine for you all to wait. The good news is that whenever you do it chances are your daughter will have a quick recovery just like my son - he was back to "normal" as soon as we returned home that day! If you'd like to read all of my posts that deal with this subject, you can go here: http://memoriesasamom2.blogspot.com/2010/04/brachial-cleft-experience.html
Sending you my best!
Andrea
Hi Andrea. Thanks for your reply. We plan on consulting another ENT just to see if they have the same recommendation. The thing with this condition is that there seem to be no specific treatment suggested. Even the spelling of the name confuses me. Some are brachial, others are branchial. There is also the cyst, fistula and sinus. Even the suggested treatment it seems will all depend on the doctor you go to. Perhaps one doctor will say to do it the sooner the better. Some would say otherwise and also reading comments on different posts, I can see that some went thru adulthood without any complications. It's tough to make a decision without a clear fact. Thank you for sharing your experience and I'm glad to hear that it has been an easy recovery for your child.
Hi! I ran into your blog after searching on google "Brachial Cleft Fistula." It was really nice to read a mother's experience with this as my 18 month old son will be having his removed in 2 days. I'm nervous, but your post was informative and put my mind (and heart) at ease. Thank you! -Cathy
My son just had his branchial cleft fistula removed yesterday. I was very nervous to have his removed as it wasn't leaking any fluid, but our doctors recommended it be removed to avoid infection (they indicated it was not a matter of if, but a matter of when it got infected). I am so happy to report that the surgery went off without a hitch. He had to go under general anesthesia (which required a breathing tube to be put down his throat) -- that was the worst part of it for me! The surgery was just under an hour and he came out crying, but within an hour we were able to leave the hospital and he is doing great now. I am glad we did it -- one less thing to worry about!
Hmmm...I wasn't worried at all about the diagnosis of Brachial Cleft Fistula we received today at the pediatrician until I read your blog and all the comments! LOL! :-) My daughter (our 3rd) is 4 weeks old. A couple of days after we brought her home from the hospital, I noticed this "pit" or "tuck" in her neck. I just kind of chalked it up as a little deformity, but nothing major and didn't really think about it again - until last night. I was nursing her and after she finished, her head was on the pillow and she stretched. The "pit" in her neck was oozing. I wiped it and then put a little pressure on the side and some green yuck came out. There was quite a lot...enough for this non-freak out mom to be concerned. I called the doctor this morning and took Jane in to see her. She told me what it was and that it was probably infected. She sent us with a Rx for antibiotic and a referral to an ENT. She told me that the ENT probably would just monitor her every 6 months, but now I'm concerned a surgery may be in our future. However, your success story does make me feel better... Still processing......
Cathy, Anonymous, and Nicole -- As you moms can see, you are definitely not alone! Cathy, how did your son's surgery go? I'm so glad that my blog helped you go into it easier. Anonymous, it is great to read another success story, that is wonderful that your son did/and is doing well, too! Nicole, never feel bad for worrying about our children, we are who they count on! I'm glad you got your daughter's infection taken care of!
Hi! I have the same thing as your son has. It's not really a lump or pit. It's hardly noticeable. I t just leaks at the most inappropriate times but it dosen't annoy me!Hope Logan is doing ok! I send the family my best wishes! xoxo
Hello,
I came across your blog as I was doing some research on the branchial cleft fistula. I read that your son has already had his surgery. I just wanted to say that you did a great thing by doing that for him, as I wish that I would have had the surgery when I was that young. They noticed the dimple when I was a baby but the doctor said not to worry about it, so we didn't. It never really bothered me much as a kid, I was just embarrassed that I was different from the other kids and that when it did drain (which was occasional) it would smell. I saw about getting the surgery when I was 15 and basically the doctor said it was complicated and it he couldn't do it. We took that as nothing could be done, when we later found he really just meant
HE couldn't do it, but someone else that specializes in it that area could. So we left it alone until the month before my high school graduation, my neck swelled up like a balloon and I was in the most pain I had ever been in my life. For one week, I couldn't move my head, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, I was in the most unbelievable pain - words cant even describe it. I would just cry and my mom would too because I was just miserable, afraid for my life and in just so much pain. I'm known for my smiles and I couldn't smile due to the agonizing pain and swelling, it broke everyone's heart. I went to my general doctor and all she knew to do was to give me antibotics that didn't help me, the only way to bring the swelling down was to drain it, and that was miserable. I was never formally diagnosed with a branchial cleft fistula/cyst until a month ago and I am 18 years old. After the big swell up, it has constantly drained (never do I get a break from the constant flow of drainage and it's a lot, too). I've now been stuck with a large guaze pad on my neck for over 6 months, the tape holding it has caused so much irritation to the skin on my neck. Also the antibiotics caused very painful granulation tissue to form on the dimple. I am glad to announce that in two days I will be having surgery to get all of this fixed. We have to travel 5 hours from home to do it though. I have already been twice, and I have to go twice more.
I am so glad that you chose surgery for your son so that he wouldn't have to go through what I have went through. I also wanted to say if your next child has a branchial cleft fistula ( although I don't believe that they will because I am the only one that has it out of 3 children) please do the surgery for them as well, because if you don't and it comes up that they have to have surgery when they are older, it is so much more painful, stressful and scary.
Thanks for sharing your story and best of luck in the future.
Andrea,
My son is scheduled to have his brachial cleft fistula removed in the beginning of February. What can I expect after surgery? How long is recovery? Was your son in a lot of pain? My son will have just turned two years old when he has the surgery. Thanks!
Mari
Karen, thank you so much for your post, it was nice get the reinforcement! I am so sorry about what you went through, though. I hope that your surgery went well and that you won't have to deal with anything relating to it again!!!
Mari, best wishes to your son! I will pray that his surgery goes as well as Logan's did. Logan's couldn't have gone any better - it was fast and we went home that same day, where he was his normal self! He never had any pain (we didn't even have to give him Tylenol) and has had no problems since. It will be two years in February since he had the surgery. If you would like to read more, all of my brachical cleft fistula posts are at: http://memoriesasamom2.blogspot.com/2010/04/brachial-cleft-experience.html
OMG this is literally the only place on the entire internet I've found any useful info about this condition. My 2-year-old's "dimple" near his collarbone just started weeping about a week ago, and I had been told since he was born that if that ever happened, to take him to the dr. My ped dx'd it as "branchial cleft cyst" but of course that seems wrong - it's not a cyst, it's a dimple. I couldn't find a single picture online similar to his condition.
ANYway, I just want to thank you SO MUCH for writing about your son's experience. I am scared that the dr will recommend surgery but MUCH MUCH LESS scared now that I've read about how Logan's deal went. PHEW!
I'm gonna choose "anonymous" but my name is Connie and my little boy is Eddie.
I feel very compelled to leave a comment after reading this. I am 22 years old and I have two "holes" in my throat that I was born with. My mother was born with only one. I was told my whole life they are fistula's and just recently really started doing some research on my own about it. Both holes have always leaked a clear fluid and I've never been told about surgeries to fix it.
As for problems with them, I've only ever had one problem when I was about 15 they got really itchy and one got infected. My doctor at the time recommended cleaning it with peroxide instead of some kind of cream, so it didn't get clogged up. It cleared up just fine and I've never had another problem. I thought that maybe I could give you some hope that it might not be as bad as the doctors thinks. It leaked less as I got older and amusingly enough reading your article about it being connected to the sinus's my "holes" leak when I cry.
So there is possibilities for normalcy even with them. As I said I have two. It was rather nice to stumble upon some one who had it rather than medical research mumbo.... :) My warmest re-guards for your sons future.
Oh my Andrea, your story about Logan is nearly identical to my story about my daughter Alayna. From the diagnosis, thoughts,feelings and discovery of relatives with the same problem. My daughter is now 7 years old. She had her surgery when she was one and a year after her surgery I noticed a little skin tag on the opposite side of her surgical incision leaking fluid. Another opening appeared out of no where. The ENT said to just watch it and that it was not necessary to have surgery on this one, but the body needed somewhere else to drain the fluid. Well, tonight I was combing her hair and noticed six, yes (6) openings in her inner ear. They are literally holes or pits. My poor baby, I pressed on one of the larger ones and she said "ouch" I'm calling her ENT in the morning, but of course until then I'm searching the internet for someone else with a similar problem. If anyone else have experienced or have knowledge as to what is happening to my daughter, I welcome comments.
Thank you,
Keisha
Connie, visionqueen101, and Keisha -- Thank you for your comments! I am amazed that almost 3 yrs later there is still an absence of information about this on the internet :( So Connie, I'm so glad that my posts helped you to feel better about your little Eddie's brachial cleft! I wish you the best!!!! Visionqueen101, over these past three years it has been fascinating to read about the different experiences of those who have had this to adulthood. Some like yourself have hardly noticed their brachial cleft, while others like Karen (posted November 2010) have had numerous problems and wish they would have had the surgery. Just like with everything in life, there's no way of knowing in advance, but I have yet to hear of anyone regretting the surgery or it going anything less than ideal so that is a good sign! Keisha, I was shocked to read your comment -- I'm so sorry that your daughter now has more!!! I had no idea that could happen, I can only imagine how scary that must have been for you (and Alayna). I hope that the ENT will be able to provide you with answers!!!
Hi there. I was happy to see Your post about Logan. My little 3 yr old son has bilateral branchial cleft fistulae with the openings on the collarbone. Can I ask you more about the surgery? I am so very worried about the scarring. Do you know exactly how they did the surgery? I hear that stepladder incisions are made up the neck t get the entire tract out. I would be grateful to hear what happened in your case. Were you told if Logan had a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th fistula?
I know this post is getting old and you've put this behind you, but it's so hard to find any first-hand information.
I appreciate your help,
Nate's mommy
Nate's Mommy -- Thank you for writing, I'm sorry that your precious three old little boy has this, too. :( We can still see a trace of Logan's scar from his surgery over two years ago but it is so small and light - from my understanding they stuck the tiniest of instruments inside his neck to do the surgery and from the inside his went 1/2 an inch. I know that everyone is different as far as how far they go, but I believe even with those that go farther they can still do the surgery from the inside rather than cut the neck. I would get a second opinion if you've been told this is going to be a big scar because Logan's is smaller than small! Here is a picture of what it looked like a year after the surgery: https://picasaweb.google.com/AndreaMRodgers/January2010#5433109564114844482
Our ENT thought said Logan's stage was a two so I know that three and four are more serious if that is what your son has, but we were told (before we knew what stage his was) that the recovery still should be smooth. In Logan's case, we went home after a couple of hours and he was right back to his normal self. We didn't have to give him any pain medication (not even Tylenol) because he never showed any signs of discomfort. I hope that your son's experience goes well, too! Feel free to write with anymore questions.
Thank you so much for writing back. It puts me at ease to know that Logan's was a shallow tract and perhaps Nate's will be too....fingers crossed. Won't know until he has a CT scan, which hasn't even been scheduled yet. One more question of interest - did Logan's leak clear fluid? My ENT suggested that because Nate's is leaking clear fluid that is attached all the way up to the salivary gland at the jaw line.....
Again, thank you for your feedback!!
My apologies for the delay in writing you back - we are in the process of moving. Yes, Logan's did leak clear fluid. So your ENT is incorrect! :-)
My 1 year old son is about to undergo surgery to have a branchial cleft sinus removed. I try not to think about it. Some days I think that I might cancel. Reading your stories has been helpful.
This was the only place I could find information on the little "hole" I see in my sons neck. I felt okay when my doctor said "I know what it is, but to be honest I am going to have to do some research". Our next appointment came and it was "what were we talking about". He did go for an ultrasound of the area and I was toldd it was "negative" but noone can tell me what it was negative for. Don't you know what you are testing for? So I am reading through all your comments, I don't know what the right answer is with his "hole" or what to do.
Hi, my son was born 2 months ago. I've noticed rigt away there was a holein his neck but I didn't think anything of it. I thought it was normal and common and it'll eventually go away within a couple days. Days would go by and it would still be there. I noticed goo would come out of his neck like thread. I mentioned it to his dr. During his apt. She said she has never seenit before but she would look it up for me and ask other doctors for their opinions. Our next visit, she toldme it was called "Branchial Cleft Sinus". And she would send us to a specialist to monitor it. So, our appt to see the specialist was today. July 27th 2011. The dr. Told us it was called "Branchial Cleft Fistula" and that he would need surgery to fix it or else it'll get infected. I was almost in tears. I didn't want myson's father or dr to see me tear up so I would hide my face. I wanted to be strong for my son even though it teared me up inside. I'm going to go ahead with the surgery. I think it would be best for my son now than when he gets older and he can actually remember the pain. And of course my son's father and I asked a billion questions. We also asked if it was genetic. The dr. Said no. He said the Branchial Cleft is rare and that they'll have to do more study on it. But he did make us feel secure and that everything was going to be ok. So now, all we have to do is wait til the day of his surgery. I'll keep you posted. I'm glad that my son isn't the only going through this at such a young age :^) if you have any questions for me or comments, feel free to email me at Miss_Dynestee@yahoo.com
Anonymous (#1), I am glad that you found these comments helpful. Did you decide to go through with it? I hope that things are going well.
Danielle, that sounds frustrating that your doctor doesn't know much about it! I would recommend you go to an ear, nose, and throat specialist, as I learned this isn't as rare as I thought 3 years ago -- you definitely want someone who is experienced with it and knows what they are doing! I'm guessing maybe your son was "negative" for the hole being deep inside his neck? If it is not a complete hole then there is not risk of infection and therefore he would not need the surgery, which I'm sure would be a relief to you!
Anonymous (#2), I'm sorry you learned of this with your baby boy as well. I can definitely relate to your experience and all of your feelings. Hugs to you. In our situation, it was genetic, but thankfully my daughter who was just born 12 days ago does not have it like my son who was born 3 years ago. It does sound like surgery would be the best thing for your son since he has had the goo coming out like a thread. I'm glad your doctor helped you to feel okay about it. Your son will be in my thoughts!
My son, Nathan was born with a branchial cleft fistula also. I first noticed it after leaving the hospital and thought maybe a nurse had poked him with a pin or something...silly. Then when it wasn't going away and leaking I had asked his pediatrician about it. She looked it up for me and then diagnosed it. He had surgery for it at age 1 and at the same time had tubes in his ears because the ENT also noticed fluid in his ears and he had almost complete hearing loss because of it. He has had no problems with his neck since and you can barely notice the scar. I'm now looking it up again online because he has been having problems with his ears again (retracted eardrums and hearing loss)and I noticed some things that made me wonder if the 2 are conected. Now I have more questions for his doctor. He is having new tubes put in next month, praying this stops the problem more then just a temporary fix. He is now 6 years. old.
Nicole, have you heard of BOR Syndrome? I wrote a post about it here: http://momwriterme.blogspot.com/2010/07/bor-syndrome.html The part about your son having some hearing issues made me wonder if maybe this is what your son has??? Please keep me updated, I will be thinking of you and your son.
Until yesterday, I had never heard of BOR Syndrome. I decided to come back and visit this blog today, so this is the first time I saw your response. I did more research yesterday when I ex-husband told me that his brother's daughter also has a branchial cleft fistula. I couldn't believe it when he told me. So, I emailed her mother and she told me that her daughter also has problems with her ears. I contacted my sons ENT and when he called me back this morning I told him about Nathan's cousin. The ENT told me I should call my pediatrician and have them call in a urinanalysis (spelling) and an ultrasound of his kidneys. Needless to say, I have been crying most of the day. My ex-husband is also contacting his brother tonight to speak to him about what I have found. Thank you for the info, I wish I had seen it sooner.
Nicole, thank you for returning. My heart went out to you when I read your comment back in November. :( What is the latest with your son?
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